社区管理 发表于 2023-2-25 15:32

85岁老人被要求“证明你妈是你妈”

<p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;">2月23日</span></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;">有网友发视频吐槽</span></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;">家人在为85岁的奶奶</span></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;">办理户籍证明资料时</span></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;">陷入了证明<span class="bjh-strong" style="max-width: 100%; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-weight: 700; user-select: text !important;">“你妈是你妈”</span>的困境</span></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;"><span class="bjh-strong" style="max-width: 100%; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-weight: 700; user-select: text !important;">派出所:无法查到二人系母女关系</span></span></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;">据舒先生介绍,已在广州落户的妹妹把母亲接过去同住,为方便以后生活,特别是方便异地医疗费用结算,<span class="bjh-strong" style="max-width: 100%; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-weight: 700; user-select: text !important;">申请为老人办理当地居住证</span>。</span></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;">按广州现行政策需要提供一份母亲户籍所在地出具的摘录证明,证明舒先生母亲与妹妹的母女关系,本以为很简单的事情,没想到难住了在长春的一家人。</span></p><p></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;">据舒先生讲述,早在1995年左右,妹妹的户口已跟家里人分开,<span class="bjh-strong" style="max-width: 100%; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-weight: 700; user-select: text !important;">户口本经历了多次更替和分户</span>,手里也没有“老户口本”可以证明母亲和妹妹的母女关系。</span></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;">2月初,他到辖区内西三条街派出所开具相关证明,<span class="bjh-strong" style="max-width: 100%; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-weight: 700; user-select: text !important;">工作人员告知“电脑”轨迹里中查不到母亲与妹妹的母女关系信息</span>,无法办理。</span></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;">随后,舒先生又到宽城区政务服务中心咨询,<span class="bjh-strong" style="max-width: 100%; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-weight: 700; user-select: text !important;">工作人员同样答复无法出具证明,并解释是历史原因。</span></span></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;">西三条街派出所专门为此事开具了一份纸质说明,说明内容中称,<span class="bjh-strong" style="max-width: 100%; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-weight: 700; user-select: text !important;">“由于年代久远及历史原因,我们无法查到二人系母女关系的纸质线索”。</span></span></p><p></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;"><span class="bjh-strong" style="max-width: 100%; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-weight: 700; user-select: text !important;">85岁老母亲奋笔疾书</span></span></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;"><span class="bjh-strong" style="max-width: 100%; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-weight: 700; user-select: text !important;">证明自己是女儿的妈妈</span></span></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;">在舒先生看来,妹妹的户口早已与母亲的户口分离,现有的户口本无法直接证明亲属关系,相关部门在户籍系统中查不到,应该想办法解决问题,而不能只说“历史原因”。</span></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;"><span class="bjh-strong" style="max-width: 100%; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-weight: 700; user-select: text !important;">令舒先生和家人更心疼的是,85岁的老人知道这一情况后,不断写“她是女儿妈妈”的证明材料,想寄回老家解决问题。</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;"><span class="bjh-strong" style="max-width: 100%; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-weight: 700; user-select: text !important;">律师说法:可通过实地走访证明</span></span></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span class="bjh-p" style="user-select: text !important; max-width: 100%;">北京市中闻(西安)律师事务所谭敏涛律师表示,公安机关因为工作不规范导致公民的户籍信息丢失,户籍信息中查不到公民的登记信息,此时,<span class="bjh-strong" style="max-width: 100%; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-weight: 700; user-select: text !important;">可由公民住所地的村委会或者居委会进行实地走访调查,通过询问相关证人的方式,来证实公民的真实身份以及亲属关系。</span></span></p><p style="overflow-y: auto; max-width: 100%; line-height: 30px; user-select: text !important; margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; 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永无止境畅游 发表于 2023-2-25 20:09

凡是得要证据

我的秋天 发表于 2023-2-25 20:18

这个要去找原始证件 应该会找到

等你66 发表于 2023-2-26 08:43

kfx320 发表于 2023-2-26 12:43

机关开具证明,本人怎么证明

三生三世 发表于 2023-2-26 18:29

好麻烦的事情

《保持沉默》 发表于 2023-2-27 05:35

简单的事情变成复杂的事情了

《保持沉默》 发表于 2023-2-27 05:36

应该多方面考虑考虑老百姓的难

阳光下的鱼 发表于 2023-2-27 09:44

这可咋证明

烈瞳 发表于 2023-2-27 10:59

希望考虑老百姓的难处

一只眠羊~ 发表于 2023-2-27 15:39

有点麻烦
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